ID folk: Do you think the flagellum is an example of irreducible complexity
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ID folk: Do you think the flagellum is an example of irreducible complexity

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... says that his belief that this motor has been intelligently designed has given him many research insights. Minnich points out that the very process of assembly in the right sequence requires other regulatory machines.2 He also points out that only about 10 of the 40 components can possibly be explained by co-option,......
I am an ID proponent, but i don't think that the flagellum is a good example of IC because of the arguments given by Ken Miller.
Do you think
1) IC is debunked
2) The flagellum is irreducibly complex
3) The flagellum isn't IC but there are other things that are IC.

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Dr Scott Minnich of the University of Idaho, a world expert on the flagellar motor, ... says that his belief that this motor has been intelligently designed has given him many research insights. Minnich points out that the very process of assembly in the right sequence requires other regulatory machines.2 He also points out that only about 10 of the 40 components can possibly be explained by co-option, but the other 30 are brand new.

Finally, Dr Minnich’s research shows that the flagellum won’t form above 37°C; instead, some secretory organelles form from the same set of genes. But this secretory apparatus, as well as the plague bacterium’s drilling apparatus, are a degeneration from the flagellum. Minnich says that although it is more complex, the motor came first, so it couldn’t have been derived from them.

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What I think doesn't really matter, in the face of the "win" by the non-ID side in Kitzmiller v Dover Area School Board.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_…
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