Are cytoplasm and cell membrane considered cell organelles?If so ,then why

I have searched a lot on the internet , and i have always found two opposite answers.PLEASE I NEED HELP !

Simply, an organelle is a structure within a cell that acts as an ogran or it is a specialized unit which is useful to the cell. It is like a micro organ for the cell. Without it, all cells would not survive. In this sense, the cytoplasm and the cell membrane are considered as cell organelles. The cytoplasm acts as the muscle which binds other organelles of the cell. And the cell membrane acts as the skin of the cell.
However, in most other cases, In cell biology, an organelle is a specialized subunit within a cell that has a specific function, and is usually separately enclosed within its own lipid bilayer.
According to this definition, the major cell organelles in the cell cytoplasm are : (1) nucleolus (2) nucleus (3) ribosome (4) vesicle (5) rough endoplasmic reticulum (6) Golgi apparatus (7) cytoskeleton (8) smooth endoplasmic reticulum (9) mitochondria (10) vacuole (11) cytosol (12) lysosome (13) centriol

No I dont think so . Cell organelles are the structures embedded inside the cell . Cytoplasm is the fluid in which these are embedded and cell membrane provides a packing to the whole cell .

both are not cell organelles. because organelles are specialized sub-unit WITHIN A CELL that has a specific function, and is usually SEPARATELY ENCLOSED within its own lipid bilayer.

cytoplasm make life present in the cell., organelleles need place to live like as we have eather to live!!

What they all said.