By force i mean the 4 universal forces (weak, gravity, electromagnetic, and strong) when i look it up i find explainations stating things about work and joules and distance and time all of which state that force varies on the amount of energy put into it. going by that logic, shouldny strong force which is by the far the strongest force and keeps protons and neutrons packed together in the nucleus be packed full of with energy. But if they are so full of energy wouldnt that mean that because according to einsteins theory of relativity that states that energy manifests itself as mass that atoms should be incredibly massive? or are these two energies and forces different from each other and have different meaning? sorry my knowledge on these subjects is very limited
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Force is a METHOD.
Energy is a CAPACITY.
In general, I define force as:
A method by which one object uses in attempt to alter the motion of another object.
Energy as a general definition:
A capacity to do work or damage, as is an entity that is exchanged among objects and converted between its forms.
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"shouldny strong force which is by the far the strongest force and keeps protons and neutrons packed together in the nucleus be packed full of with energy."
It is. That is why we get incredible quantities of energy, out of nuclear fission and fusion.
There is a lot of work that needs to be done, to pull apart the subatomic particles of helium to get back to hydrogen. And thus, when fusing hydrogen to helium, you get an incredible amount of energy to release.
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But if they are so full of energy wouldnt that mean that because according to einsteins theory of relativity that states that energy manifests itself as mass that atoms should be incredibly massive?
You do. And that is why isotope masses aren't explicitly equal to the isotope "mass number". That is only defined to be true, for Carbon-12. For all other isotopes and elements, the binding energy effect also comes in to play. When the nucleus is in a lower state of energy than the same number of isolated protons and neutrons, the nucleus has a mass of less than its individual particles on their own combined. When the nucleus is in a higher state of energy than the same number of isolated protons and neutrons, the nucleus has a mass of greater than its individual particles on their own combined.
Energy is a CAPACITY.
In general, I define force as:
A method by which one object uses in attempt to alter the motion of another object.
Energy as a general definition:
A capacity to do work or damage, as is an entity that is exchanged among objects and converted between its forms.
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"shouldny strong force which is by the far the strongest force and keeps protons and neutrons packed together in the nucleus be packed full of with energy."
It is. That is why we get incredible quantities of energy, out of nuclear fission and fusion.
There is a lot of work that needs to be done, to pull apart the subatomic particles of helium to get back to hydrogen. And thus, when fusing hydrogen to helium, you get an incredible amount of energy to release.
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But if they are so full of energy wouldnt that mean that because according to einsteins theory of relativity that states that energy manifests itself as mass that atoms should be incredibly massive?
You do. And that is why isotope masses aren't explicitly equal to the isotope "mass number". That is only defined to be true, for Carbon-12. For all other isotopes and elements, the binding energy effect also comes in to play. When the nucleus is in a lower state of energy than the same number of isolated protons and neutrons, the nucleus has a mass of less than its individual particles on their own combined. When the nucleus is in a higher state of energy than the same number of isolated protons and neutrons, the nucleus has a mass of greater than its individual particles on their own combined.
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