..because everything came into existence simultaneously and instantaneously?
Or should we take a relativistic view of the universe?
Or should we take a relativistic view of the universe?
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Please cite your (peer reviewed) source for your assertion that "everything came into existence simultaneously and instantaneously". Since it is wrong, you may have to spend quite some time looking...
Do you hear voices too? lol
We can extrapolate back to ~ 10e-43 seconds before our theories fail catastrophically. We hope that a consistent theory of quantum gravity will allow us to extrapolate back further. But.
It may or may not be possible to extrapolate back to time 0. We have no way, yet (if ever) of determining that.
You make the elementary error of confusing the initial stages of the Big Bang (which is still on-going, depending on how you define your terms) with the creation event. They are not the same.One preceded the other.
There is an existential problem with using only observations from our 4-dimensional space-time pseudo-Riemannian metric space to "extrapolate" to a boundary (time 0) at which the observations can not be validly used as guides to behaviour. It is basically just the common bootstrap problem of systems: the rules determining the rules of the system can not be part of the system. (they can be referred to as "meta-rules", meta-conditions, etc.)
Lacking any scientific basis to make *any* claims about time 0, some scientists feel free to speculate and make claims that are unsupportable, as is a common characteristic in all of us. But to put their name on a manuscript submitted to a peer reviewed journal is a much more serious thing than mouthing off to the general public or some journalist stroking his/her ego. You won't find any that is not labeled "speculative", "untestable" or other designation that it is not "science".
They have used the LHC to look at particle energies up to hundreds of GeV. The energy units relevant to the time of 1E-43 sec is about 1E28eV or 1E18 GeV. Extrapolating from 600 GeV to 1E+18 GeV is clearly unsupportable; few if any extrapolations work for more than 3 - 6 orders of magnitude. None are known to work at 16 orders of magnitude...it is a bridge too far.
Do you hear voices too? lol
We can extrapolate back to ~ 10e-43 seconds before our theories fail catastrophically. We hope that a consistent theory of quantum gravity will allow us to extrapolate back further. But.
It may or may not be possible to extrapolate back to time 0. We have no way, yet (if ever) of determining that.
You make the elementary error of confusing the initial stages of the Big Bang (which is still on-going, depending on how you define your terms) with the creation event. They are not the same.One preceded the other.
There is an existential problem with using only observations from our 4-dimensional space-time pseudo-Riemannian metric space to "extrapolate" to a boundary (time 0) at which the observations can not be validly used as guides to behaviour. It is basically just the common bootstrap problem of systems: the rules determining the rules of the system can not be part of the system. (they can be referred to as "meta-rules", meta-conditions, etc.)
Lacking any scientific basis to make *any* claims about time 0, some scientists feel free to speculate and make claims that are unsupportable, as is a common characteristic in all of us. But to put their name on a manuscript submitted to a peer reviewed journal is a much more serious thing than mouthing off to the general public or some journalist stroking his/her ego. You won't find any that is not labeled "speculative", "untestable" or other designation that it is not "science".
They have used the LHC to look at particle energies up to hundreds of GeV. The energy units relevant to the time of 1E-43 sec is about 1E28eV or 1E18 GeV. Extrapolating from 600 GeV to 1E+18 GeV is clearly unsupportable; few if any extrapolations work for more than 3 - 6 orders of magnitude. None are known to work at 16 orders of magnitude...it is a bridge too far.
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